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Internet MOO/IRC Transcript
EFF Presents Aerosmith on The SenseMedia Network, December 7, 1994
December 7, 1994, A Day That Will Live In Internet!
- Rocker:
- Welcome To The SenseMedia Venue. After the Gig, Please Visit MOO World '94, an exhibit of virtual realities on the internet
- Rocker:
- Meet and find out about all the places and people that have volunteered time, resources and facilities to bring you this event.
- Rocker:
- There is nothing Virtual about VR these days. this is reality.
- Rocker:
- there are presently over 400 people and more than a dozen sites connected presently and the number is continuing to grow.
- Edge:
- As with any concert, the band's a bit late :) Hang on, we're gonna demand extra airtime at the end :)
- Steven_Tyler:
- Raise that one finger towards ignorant glances...
- Rocker:
- finger aerosmith@sensemedia.net for up to date list of sites.
- Steven_Tyler:
- bow to the matrix as new romance dances...
- Steven_Tyler:
- we're all here cause we're not all there.
- Steven_Tyler:
- Good evening from Aerosmith
- Brad Whitford:
- Welcome...
- Edge:
- moderators: please try to choose only the MOST clueful questions to forward
- Joe_Perry:
- We all got computers for christmas last year
- Brad Whitford:
- Allright everybody pull over
- Edge:
- Any admins out there having problems with the moo saying 'can't accept any more connections' it's your machine, and it's run out of file handles. Set your @cap to one less than the Bad Number so users will see the message telling them to finger aerosmith@sensemedia.net
- Steven_Tyler:
- we need to get one question at a time please...
- Joey_Kramer:
- : in response to the question about where we got the name aerosmith...i thought of it
- Traveller:
- Please hold your questions for just a moment, we are getting to them as fast as possible.
- Rocker:
- joey, what made you think of Aerosmith?
- Joey_Kramer:
- : nothing in particular...i just thought of it
- Steven_Tyler:
- check mate don't be late, take another pull that's right, impossible...
- Tom_Hamilton:
- : did you get my answer on the five string?I like the low D and a five string is the best way to get it
- Joey_Kramer:
- i have a freiend thAT I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH THAT STILL HAS MY PSYCHOLOGY AND MATH BOOKS WITH AEROSMITH WRITTEN ALL OVER THEM
- Steven_Tyler:
- when you gotta be yerself, its the toss yer loss blah blah blah blagh
- Rocker:
- aerosmith has allways seemed to be on the cutting edge of whatever. how did you get into computers?
- Steven_Tyler:
- a thousand wattt atime
- Tom_Hamilton:
- It's like any other kind of freedom.Sweet!
- Joey_Kramer:
- computers are teh cutting edge
- Rocker:
- Who is that GIRL thats in Amazin and Cryin' ?
- Joey_Kramer:
- what we are doig right now is the cutting edge
- Steven_Tyler:
- This gives hijacking a whole new meaning!
- Joe_Perry:
- She's Alicia Silverstone
- Steven_Tyler:
- what free time?
- Tom_Hamilton:
- Her name is Alicia Silverstone and she's one of them 100% legit actresses.don't you think?
- Joe_Perry:
- Internet: I am tonite!
- Steven_Tyler:
- tour is almost overthen,maybe!
- Joe_Perry:
- influence: Jeff Beck
- Tom_Hamilton:
- If you mail it,we get it!
- Tom_Hamilton:
- we'll be doing more with the newsgroup in the future
- Steven_Tyler:
- ocassionally!
- Rocker:
- how do you use computers now? in the studio? synthesizers? or just email?
- Tom_Hamilton:
- well once in a while we have to take a break and play our instruments
- Rocker:
- What made you get involved with this Censorship on the internet thing?
- Joe_Perry:
- We're against any kind of censorshiop
- Edge:
- [editor's note] The moderation system kinda flubbed, so we're bypassing th e normal podium. Rocker is acting as a second-level moderator and asking questions one at a time, and the band is answering.
- Tom_Hamilton:
- wether people realise it or not,we're all involved and affected by,censorship
- Rocker:
- how did you hear about the censorship of usenet newgroups?
- Steven_Tyler:
- Juan Sirrakah told us about censorship on the net...
- Edge:
- [editor's note REPEAT] The moderation system kinda flubbed, so we're bypassing th e normal podium. Rocker is acting as a second-level moderator and asking questions one at a time, and the band is answering.
- Steven_Tyler:
- Nikki...stranger things have happened.
- Steven_Tyler:
- indubitably!
- Steven_Tyler:
- She is my daughter.
- Rocker:
- what do you think the colleges should do about it?
- Steven_Tyler:
- for now, send stuffto Juanaf1@aol.com
- Steven_Tyler:
- music overthe net...there'll be surprises down the line
- Joey_Kramer:
- as far as the mnusic over the internt, we will get into it as soon as it aloit of things get straightened out
- Rocker:
- are you going to start distributing audio over the net?
- Rocker:
- are you going to start distributing audio over the net?
- Joey_Kramer:
- we will distributwe music over thenet when some tech stuff gets figured out
- Brad Whitford:
- Fire away...
- Rocker:
- so how do you feel about participating in experiments like distributed forum networks?
- Joey_Kramer:
- it is fun but it needs to be a little nre organized
- Tom_Hamilton:
- like jumping off a building with a blindfold
- Steven_Tyler:
- it's kind of cool. kind of scary. Do YOU know what's goin' on?
- Joey_Kramer:
- captain ahab
- Rocker:
- MTV started a whole new way to experience 'music', how do you see Aerosmith using the net to express yourselves in the future?
- Tom_Hamilton:
- our cyber road manager
- Steven_Tyler:
- it's anidea who's time had come.
- Rocker:
- right now your home page can be found at http://sensemedia.net/aerosmith
- Joe_Perry:
- Interacting with our audience (re: expressing ouselves in the future)
- Joey_Kramer:
- we'll al have to turn ouselves into net heads
- Steven_Tyler:
- maybe asking for help, asking for critique on artwork...
- Rocker:
- do you see releasing songs early to net users like some other artists?
- Tom_Hamilton:
- same way everybody does
- Joe_Perry:
- we would like to do that before we record it and get some feedback (re: pre-release)
- Joe_Perry:
- before we record it officially that is
- Joey_Kramer:
- we are connecting rigt from where we are connected
- Joe_Perry:
- or maybe not :)
- Steven_Tyler:
- but there's a lot of things that need to be worked out,first...
- Rocker:
- INTERNET Providers like the Internet Underground Music Archive are now putting garage bands up on the net. did you get a start in a garage?
Paul: The band is coming in through MCSNet in Chicago.
- Joe_Perry:
- we started out more in a barn
- Rocker:
- a barn? what were you doing in a barn?
- Tom_Hamilton:
- hey everybody,we're jus[ we worked our way up to garage
- Rocker:
- What exactly is your involvement with the Electronic Frontier Foundation?
- Steven_Tyler:
- not yet
- Joe_Perry:
- No, not yet
- Joey_Kramer:
- i only surf on the ocean
- Brad Whitford:
- No not yet
- Steven_Tyler:
- They are the ACLU of Cyberspace.
- Tom_Hamilton:
- we 're finally gettin off the road and getting new computers.maybe now we'll be able to learn to use the net without all these geniuses hanging around
- Brad Whitford:
- Fighting censorship on EFF
- Steven_Tyler:
- The EFF is fighting to keep rights for people who don't know they even have them yet
- Tom_Hamilton:
- the net is the new wild west.keep it that way.
- Steven_Tyler:
- the publicity surrounding this event should get a lot more people aware of the net...
- Steven_Tyler:
- and what's going on.
- Tom_Hamilton:
- like the song said:you gota fight for your right to paaarty
- Rocker:
- now the aerosmith has their own website and presence on the internet..., what is next?
- Joey_Kramer:
- on emore mode of communication to fans
- Steven_Tyler:
- seemed like the thing to do atthe time...
- Steven_Tyler:
- we just found the web site. It's actually not our OWN. But it is way cool.
- Rocker:
- how does the record company support you on your network ventures?
- Joe_Perry:
- we definitely should have our own node
- Joey_Kramer:
- Geffen AND Sony both made donations to the EFF...and EMI
- Rocker:
- where are you now in real life?
- Rocker:
- where are you jacking in from?
- Steven_Tyler:
- a hotel Chicago.
- Steven_Tyler:
- 312 266 1000
- Rocker:
- call that number for a good time?
- Steven_Tyler:
- get them moos up baby!
- Rocker:
- MOOO
- DDRocker:
- ok the link is live!
- Rocker:
- what bands did you listen too?
- Steven_Tyler:
- Whatthe Stones did was really cool, but we'll probably wait til technologycatches up a bit
- Brad Whitford:
- Cream
- Tom_Hamilton:
- byrds love moby grape
- Joey_Kramer:
- the bands that i listen to are james brown, tower of power, spin doctors, pearl jam, jeff beck, uh...anything else i can get my hands on
- Rocker:
- how has censorship affected Aerosith?
- Rocker:
- how do you feel about the efforts to BAN records let alone usenet newsgroups:?
- Steven_Tyler:
- I'm the kind of person who when someo I can't...
- Steven_Tyler:
- I have to prove them wrong.
- Joey_Kramer:
- who is trying to ban records?
- Tom_Hamilton:
- banning should be bannes
- Steven_Tyler:
- Ban Roll On
- Joey_Kramer:
- no sweat
- Joe_Perry:
- No sweat!
- Edge:
- [forwarded Q] Joe Perry, do you feel you're under-rated as a guitarist? IE, Slash, Eric Clapton, Jimi Page, etc get great press. What's the deal? [gary in cincinnati]
- Tom_Hamilton:
- I meant to say BANNING SHOULD BE BANNED. too bad my typing sucks
- Joey_Kramer:
- greqt minds think alike
- Brad Whitford:
- And the Band played
- Joe_Perry:
- Good press is the kiss of death
- Joey_Kramer:
- we will just keep doing the same thing
- Joe_Perry:
- major labels will always try to sign the newest, hippest thing.
- Rocker:
- joey and what is the same thing?
- Tom_Hamilton:
- The same old thing is what has helped us co-exist with alternative
- Joey_Kramer:
- that is why we have two record companies working for u s at the same time
- Joey_Kramer:
- just the same old shit
- Joey_Kramer:
- not
- Rocker:
- any irony that kids of people that were listening to you on LPS are now listening to you on the NET?
- Joey_Kramer:
- isn't that in itself ironic
- Steven_Tyler:
- That's not irony, that's progress
- Tom_Hamilton:
- you might say that. irony makes it all keep goin' round
- Rocker:
- do you think that in moving forward to 'digital' you lost something from the big vynl lps?
- Steven_Tyler:
- no because when we go digital we always dump it back to analog
- Rocker:
- tell us a little about your next musical endeavour?
- Tom_Hamilton:
- some people think the old lp's sounded warmer but from what we can tell progress is progress
- Steven_Tyler:
- our nextendeavor, Jan &Feb, OFF! Cutting the tether...
- Steven_Tyler:
- we start writninginMarch...
- Steven_Tyler:
- and hope to be in the studio by july. new record by this time nextyear.
- Rocker:
- COOL. what about cybertour 95?
- Joe_Perry:
- Cybertour 95: We'll be there!
- Joe_Perry:
- only it'll probably be from the recording studio
- Rocker:
- early this year the government tried to get encryption called "clipper" passed as a standard.
- Rocker:
- this encryption had a backdoor so law enforcement could decode anyones messages.
- Rocker:
- what do you feel the proper role of government is in this?
- Joe_Perry:
- That's bullshit!
- Joey_Kramer:
- [ the government should butt out
- Steven_Tyler:
- Butt the fuck out
- Joe_Perry:
- Keeping the snow off the roads?
- Joey_Kramer:
- great minds think alike
- Rocker:
- do you plan to encrypt any of your content with PGP or any of the other public domain standards?
- Steven_Tyler:
- uh...we'll leave thatto the lawyers?
- Joe_Perry:
- You should've seen the priest when he christened me...
- Joe_Perry:
- ;)
- Joe_Perry:
- Same shit different day!
- Steven_Tyler:
- its harder to getheard now, there's ten times asmanybands...
- Tom_Hamilton:
- [ I think it's more diverse.more opportunities tto make it
- Steven_Tyler:
- We didn't like the blood til we found out we could change the colors.
- Tom_Hamilton:
- 4?!!! cAN't you count?
- Steven_Tyler:
- 4? at a width of bandwaste!
- Joey_Kramer:
- don't asl questions unless you know how many band members there are
- Rocker:
- irc:what made you guys come clean and get off the drug scene?
- Edge:
- I'm wondering which band member doesn't COUNT! Comments?
- Steven_Tyler:
- or is thaa waste of bandwidth?
- Tom_Hamilton:
- we wanted to see what it was like to be awake
- Steven_Tyler:
- ran out of money.
- Joe_Perry:
- sick and tired of being sick and tired
- Tom_Hamilton:
- although I have to admit: being awake is highly overrated
- Steven_Tyler:
- I think that's whatwe're doing here.
- Tom_Hamilton:
- and sparky...
- Joey_Kramer:
- the band member that doesn't count is john paul jones
- Rocker:
- so, if you wanted the audience to get at least one message from this event, what would it be?
- Steven_Tyler:
- keep yer nose to the grindstone, it sharpens yer boogers
- Rocker:
- have you seen the EFF/Aerosmith T shirts? What do they look like for people without WWW access?
- Rocker:
- why do you think that EFF is a cause worthy of pushing T-shirts in their name?
- Steven_Tyler:
- It's the bill of rights and our logo, being sucked into the matrix of Cyberspace, through acomputer monitor..
- Steven_Tyler:
- really..
- Tom_Hamilton:
- do you want an oil company to own the net?do you want Lyndon LaRouche telling right from wrong?
- Joe_Perry:
- Dont' let you guard down about censorship, and and don't take freedom for granted (re: message to take home from this event)
- Rocker:
- What can ordinary internetters do to Help keep their guard up
- Rocker:
- what can they do to help fight censorship?
- Steven_Tyler:
- I'm sorry, but I gotta go. Hast Lumbago!
- Joey_Kramer:
- if you wqnt to help protect your rights, join the EFF
- Steven_Tyler:
- It's been real.
- Tom_Hamilton:
- be careful about giving them bait
- Rocker:
- waves. to st and the band.
- Joe_Perry:
- support the EFF, write your congressman, be politically active.
- Rocker:
- THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT
- Joey_Kramer:
- good-bye
- Tom_Hamilton:
- take it easy y'all!!
- Rocker:
- I would like to thank Aerosmith and EFF on behalf of all of the internet users and hosts that helped do this event
- Rocker:
- thankyou Eskimo.com for the irc server
- Joe_Perry:
- I'm signing off, had a great ride, see you next time!
- Rocker:
- thankyou all the record companies ammd MCSNET
- Paul:
- You can't go home, but you can't stay here..
- Rocker:
- and thankyou for joining us at The SenseMedia Venue!
- Rocker:
- please check out the aerosmith web site http://sensemedia.net/aerosmith
- Edge:
- We have a full list of all the E-Mail addresses of everyone who logged in everywhere for the event. We're selecting random numbers tomorrow to hand out door prizes - you'll receive an announcement and a form in your mailbox soon. (you may already be a weiner!)
- Rocker:
- and feel free to stay and browse the exhibts as long as you would lilke!
- Rocker:
- applauds the band, all the sponsors and ALL OF THE WIZARDS that helped make this event!
- Rocker:
- thankyou for joining us and have a great year!
- Neuromancer:
- THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED THIS EVENT! EFF, AEROSMITH, SENSEMEDIA, ESKIMO!
- Joey_Kramer:
- jsay joey thinks edge is a whiner too
- Rocker:
- yes. but he is OUR whiner!
- Rocker:
- for more information please contact aerosmith@sensemedia.net
- Paul:
- Keep yer feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars.
- Edge:
- TRANSCRIPTS are available - finger aerosmith@sensemedia net tomorrow for info on how to get it.
- Paul:
- Buy bonds!
- Neuromancer:
- PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!
- Ice:
- Fell free to shut down, or not. The link shall remain established.
- Rocker:
- buy t-shirts, visit the MOO World '94 Exhibit.
- Stanton_McCandlish:
- go home silly people, it's over. >;) Just kidding. Hope anyone still there enjoyed the show
- Edge:
- Could the last person to log out please turn off the lights?
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